![]() ![]() Richard Kreitner joins me to talk through that history on tonight's show. The book is called Break It Up: Secession, Division, and the Secret History of America's Imperfect Union. Journalists Richard Kreitner published a new survey of our national history through the lens of succession. There's a book about it, last fall, amid the heat of the 2020 election drama. There's an argument to be made that this emotion, this readiness to give up on the unity piece, it's actually a defining part of the United States history. It's safe to that a lot of folks can relate to this emotion right now, people of almost every political ideology and affiliation actually. A deep frustration with the effort to keep the United part of these United States. I'm talking about an emotional thing here. It's all way more complicated than what I have just laid out. If West Virginia and Arizona are happy with their leadership, fine, great, but why do I have to live with it? Or put another way if we've got a system where this relative handful of people living in two states could end up deciding the fate of the planet, I don't know, is that a system that's a net positive for humanity?Īre we better off breaking this thing up? Now look, before you start hate tweeting at me, I get it. I say all this to say what? That sometimes I'm through with it. None of us got to say anything about either of these two senators and yet, they have right now enormous power over billions of lives. Now, Kyrsten Sinema, she's another story, a lot more people chose her to be senator just over a million people, all who live in Arizona and good for them, but there are 330 million people in the United States alone. Yet, the whole planet is subject to his political mood at the moment. ![]() Obviously, all of them in the state of West Virginia and like three years ago, 290,510 West Virginians. 290,510, that is how many people voted for Joe Manchin to be a senator. Like let's division off Texas and let them do their thing because we're just not speaking a similar language at all. Jeremy: The division is very unhealthy and is sometimes even tempting to want to split up our country. Jeremy: We just do things so differently here than the rest of the country, which is so much more trapped and more conservative ideas and stuff.īenny: I feel like there was always an ingrained division, but especially after Trump got elected in 2016, I feel like a lot of these ideologies that people harbor just surfaced, and then people started realizing how different we all are like politically and socially. Regina de Heer: Why do you think that is? My connection is definitely with New York more than it is with the rest of the country. It's just one of the most vibrant cities in the world. Regina de Heer: Do you feel any allegiance to where you live? Every American I've met, always wants to do things their way. Regina de Heer: Do you think there's anything at all that all people in the United States have in common? ![]()
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